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« il: Settembre 10, 2009, 19:15:39 pm »
Scusate ma in rete ci sono dei veri e propri siti che vendono replica watches. Non capisco non sono illegali ??.

Tipo
http://www.e-watchshop.com/glashutte-panoreserve-mens-watch-65-01-02-02-04-watch.html

Ci sono replica di tutti i tipi compreso GO panoreserve vi sembra possibile ???

Sono meravigliato [:0]

1) per la illegalita', perche i siti non vengono chiusi?
2) fanno replica di tutto compresi orologi di nicchia (GO etc etc )e' possibile ??
3)Bisogna veramente stare attenti alle sole




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« Risposta #1 il: Settembre 10, 2009, 20:08:23 pm »
ne abbiamo parlato diverse volte...
è una vergogna...
una delle tante...
[V][xx(][:(]

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« Risposta #2 il: Settembre 11, 2009, 00:03:38 am »
Meravigliato???? Io sono meravigliato che tu lo sia![:D][:D] Se guardi bene sono presenti anche sul nostro forum![;)]

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« Risposta #3 il: Settembre 11, 2009, 02:38:17 am »
Roberto ha scritto:

Meravigliato???? Io sono meravigliato che tu lo sia![:D][:D] Se guardi bene sono presenti anche sul nostro forum![;)]


dove???? [:0][:0][:0][:0]

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« Risposta #4 il: Settembre 11, 2009, 07:45:06 am »
belloriccoefamoso ha scritto:

Roberto ha scritto:

Meravigliato???? Io sono meravigliato che tu lo sia![:D][:D] Se guardi bene sono presenti anche sul nostro forum![;)]


dove???? [:0][:0][:0][:0]


Quì i due occhielli a destra e sinistra!!![}:)]
http://www.orologico.it/forumita2/forum/

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« Risposta #5 il: Settembre 11, 2009, 09:42:19 am »
sono illegali, ma tanto finchè c'è gente che li compra.....

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« Risposta #6 il: Settembre 11, 2009, 14:44:09 pm »
airangel ha scritto:

sono illegali, ma tanto finchè c'è gente che li compra.....


E questo, potrebbe dare un certo "perchè" a come mai negli ultimi anni
gli orologi di "blasone" al polso della gente sono aumentati

io, in metropolitana milanese, vedo molto..molti..troppi pezzi di un certo calibro

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« Risposta #7 il: Settembre 11, 2009, 15:41:28 pm »
appunto....troppi pezzi "sospetti", così anche chi ce l'ha vero, dopo aver fatto tanti sacrifici per prenderlo, si ritrova in mezzo a quel mucchio.
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« Risposta #8 il: Settembre 11, 2009, 15:44:44 pm »
ecco perchè nn rolezzz [;)][;)][;)][;)][;)][;)]
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« Risposta #9 il: Settembre 11, 2009, 15:45:38 pm »
io non vedo nessun occhiello
sara' il mozilla fierfox di ubuntu che li cancella in automatico? [:D][:D][:D]

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« Risposta #10 il: Settembre 11, 2009, 16:54:20 pm »
belloriccoefamoso ha scritto:

io non vedo nessun occhiello
sara' il mozilla fierfox di ubuntu che li cancella in automatico? [:D][:D][:D]


Enrì in alto...sotto il logo del forum....dove ci sono le pubblicità di gioiellerie ci sono anche pubblicità di siti che vendono fake!

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« Risposta #11 il: Settembre 11, 2009, 17:46:14 pm »
A questo proposito, ecco una breve guida per riconoscere i Panerai falsi.

Panerai versus Panerai Replica
The world of watchmaking today can be divided into two groups: one is manufacturing timepieces with various functions, using high-end materials and complicated mechanisms and the other group copies everything that the original producers create. Each year it is getting more difficult not only for simple people but to the experts as well to spot a fake watch.

If several years ago it was easy to port a fake watch, because of such obvious mistakes like misspellings and strange looking hands of the dial having no luminescent substances, then today fake watch manufacturers copy the original timepiece very accurately paying attention mainly to the details of the exterior of watches.

Spotting the Fake Panerai Movement
The so-called high quality fakes use ETA movements. Most commonly used are the Valjoux 7750 and ETA 2824. Most importantly is the fact that these movements are used for many fake models such as IWC and Omega. As for the Panerai fakes then the work here is much easier since the counterfeiters use the same base movements as the genuine manual wind watches.

The historical timepieces include a Unitas 6497. This type of movement was modified. The modifications of ETA/Unitas 6497 are called OP I, OP II, OP X, OP XI. These movements have 16 Ð’Ð… lignes and 17 jewel characteristics. Panerai was able to redesign back in 2002 the OP X (XI) movement. The bridge of the movement was redesigned and a swan neck regulator was added.

The original, so-called base form, of Unitas is not very accurate and it can be easily purchased for about 70 dollars. Most fake watch manufacturers, when using these movements, usually cover them with a solid case back. To solve this problem the original Panerai manufacturer started covering the watches' case backs with sapphire crystals.

Other Features to Be Found on Panerai Replica
It is important to remember that the fake watches today may look just like the real timepiece but the counterfeiters surely are still not able to exactly copy the original movement of Panerai. You may also spot a wrong font on the fake Panerai watch, usually being Arial Light.

The letterings can be upside down when the movement is placed inside the case, it means that you could see the regulator up and crown left.

Although some movements of fake watches can be rather rough, usually introduced in 600 dollars fakes, some Panerai replica watches can have some more accurate decorations which make it difficult to see the fake movement. Such fakes can cost from 800 till 1000 dollars but it is important to know that no matter how accurate the movement of a fake watch looks it still lacks the swan neck and the bridge modifications.

Fake Panerai watches have roughly polished stones and their look sometimes can be somewhat unfinished. It is important to know how the original movement looks like thus being able to spot the fake Panerai. If you are just a starter in understanding timepieces and spotting the differences between the fakes and the real models, then you should first of all pay attention to the exposed parts of a watch.

It means that you can identify a replica by looking at the edges which should be smooth and not hard and rough. The metal shavings can help you in spotting a fake. The difference can be also seen by looking at the screws of a Panerai watch. The genuine model have the screws in blue color but only thanks to a special heating process, but the fake watch producers, however, use paint which is quite easy to identify. Very often the replica timepieces do not have the logo of Panerai at their edges.

Look sharp and learn more about the timepieces of the 21st century. Improve your knowledge in recognizing the genuine models and spotting the fake timepieces. If you do so then you won't have to worry about choosing the watch of your dreams.
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« Risposta #12 il: Settembre 11, 2009, 17:52:39 pm »
ROGER ha scritto:

A questo proposito, ecco una breve guida per riconoscere i Panerai falsi.

Panerai versus Panerai Replica
The world of watchmaking today can be divided into two groups: one is manufacturing timepieces with various functions, using high-end materials and complicated mechanisms and the other group copies everything that the original producers create. Each year it is getting more difficult not only for simple people but to the experts as well to spot a fake watch.

If several years ago it was easy to port a fake watch, because of such obvious mistakes like misspellings and strange looking hands of the dial having no luminescent substances, then today fake watch manufacturers copy the original timepiece very accurately paying attention mainly to the details of the exterior of watches.

Spotting the Fake Panerai Movement
The so-called high quality fakes use ETA movements. Most commonly used are the Valjoux 7750 and ETA 2824. Most importantly is the fact that these movements are used for many fake models such as IWC and Omega. As for the Panerai fakes then the work here is much easier since the counterfeiters use the same base movements as the genuine manual wind watches.

The historical timepieces include a Unitas 6497. This type of movement was modified. The modifications of ETA/Unitas 6497 are called OP I, OP II, OP X, OP XI. These movements have 16 Ð’Ð… lignes and 17 jewel characteristics. Panerai was able to redesign back in 2002 the OP X (XI) movement. The bridge of the movement was redesigned and a swan neck regulator was added.

The original, so-called base form, of Unitas is not very accurate and it can be easily purchased for about 70 dollars. Most fake watch manufacturers, when using these movements, usually cover them with a solid case back. To solve this problem the original Panerai manufacturer started covering the watches' case backs with sapphire crystals.

Other Features to Be Found on Panerai Replica
It is important to remember that the fake watches today may look just like the real timepiece but the counterfeiters surely are still not able to exactly copy the original movement of Panerai. You may also spot a wrong font on the fake Panerai watch, usually being Arial Light.

The letterings can be upside down when the movement is placed inside the case, it means that you could see the regulator up and crown left.

Although some movements of fake watches can be rather rough, usually introduced in 600 dollars fakes, some Panerai replica watches can have some more accurate decorations which make it difficult to see the fake movement. Such fakes can cost from 800 till 1000 dollars but it is important to know that no matter how accurate the movement of a fake watch looks it still lacks the swan neck and the bridge modifications.

Fake Panerai watches have roughly polished stones and their look sometimes can be somewhat unfinished. It is important to know how the original movement looks like thus being able to spot the fake Panerai. If you are just a starter in understanding timepieces and spotting the differences between the fakes and the real models, then you should first of all pay attention to the exposed parts of a watch.

It means that you can identify a replica by looking at the edges which should be smooth and not hard and rough. The metal shavings can help you in spotting a fake. The difference can be also seen by looking at the screws of a Panerai watch. The genuine model have the screws in blue color but only thanks to a special heating process, but the fake watch producers, however, use paint which is quite easy to identify. Very often the replica timepieces do not have the logo of Panerai at their edges.

Look sharp and learn more about the timepieces of the 21st century. Improve your knowledge in recognizing the genuine models and spotting the fake timepieces. If you do so then you won't have to worry about choosing the watch of your dreams.


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« Risposta #13 il: Settembre 11, 2009, 18:05:40 pm »
Roberto ha scritto:

ROGER ha scritto:

A questo proposito, ecco una breve guida per riconoscere i Panerai falsi.

Panerai versus Panerai Replica
The world of watchmaking today can be divided into two groups: one is manufacturing timepieces with various functions, using high-end materials and complicated mechanisms and the other group copies everything that the original producers create. Each year it is getting more difficult not only for simple people but to the experts as well to spot a fake watch.

If several years ago it was easy to port a fake watch, because of such obvious mistakes like misspellings and strange looking hands of the dial having no luminescent substances, then today fake watch manufacturers copy the original timepiece very accurately paying attention mainly to the details of the exterior of watches.

Spotting the Fake Panerai Movement
The so-called high quality fakes use ETA movements. Most commonly used are the Valjoux 7750 and ETA 2824. Most importantly is the fact that these movements are used for many fake models such as IWC and Omega. As for the Panerai fakes then the work here is much easier since the counterfeiters use the same base movements as the genuine manual wind watches.

The historical timepieces include a Unitas 6497. This type of movement was modified. The modifications of ETA/Unitas 6497 are called OP I, OP II, OP X, OP XI. These movements have 16 Ð’Ð… lignes and 17 jewel characteristics. Panerai was able to redesign back in 2002 the OP X (XI) movement. The bridge of the movement was redesigned and a swan neck regulator was added.

The original, so-called base form, of Unitas is not very accurate and it can be easily purchased for about 70 dollars. Most fake watch manufacturers, when using these movements, usually cover them with a solid case back. To solve this problem the original Panerai manufacturer started covering the watches' case backs with sapphire crystals.

Other Features to Be Found on Panerai Replica
It is important to remember that the fake watches today may look just like the real timepiece but the counterfeiters surely are still not able to exactly copy the original movement of Panerai. You may also spot a wrong font on the fake Panerai watch, usually being Arial Light.

The letterings can be upside down when the movement is placed inside the case, it means that you could see the regulator up and crown left.

Although some movements of fake watches can be rather rough, usually introduced in 600 dollars fakes, some Panerai replica watches can have some more accurate decorations which make it difficult to see the fake movement. Such fakes can cost from 800 till 1000 dollars but it is important to know that no matter how accurate the movement of a fake watch looks it still lacks the swan neck and the bridge modifications.

Fake Panerai watches have roughly polished stones and their look sometimes can be somewhat unfinished. It is important to know how the original movement looks like thus being able to spot the fake Panerai. If you are just a starter in understanding timepieces and spotting the differences between the fakes and the real models, then you should first of all pay attention to the exposed parts of a watch.

It means that you can identify a replica by looking at the edges which should be smooth and not hard and rough. The metal shavings can help you in spotting a fake. The difference can be also seen by looking at the screws of a Panerai watch. The genuine model have the screws in blue color but only thanks to a special heating process, but the fake watch producers, however, use paint which is quite easy to identify. Very often the replica timepieces do not have the logo of Panerai at their edges.

Look sharp and learn more about the timepieces of the 21st century. Improve your knowledge in recognizing the genuine models and spotting the fake timepieces. If you do so then you won't have to worry about choosing the watch of your dreams.


Roger è carina l'idea...ma a parte noi e altri ci potrebbero anche utenti che non sanno bene l'inglese![;)][:D]

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« Risposta #14 il: Settembre 11, 2009, 18:22:43 pm »
certo fa un po' ridere che nei fake ci siano gli stessi movimenti degli originali...
penso al 7750 o all'unitas...[:D][;)]
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